Floating a new idea about the true purpose of HAARP - USA earthquake prevention

[outlander]

This one is pretty out there but is it possible that the sole purpose of HAARP is keeping the US safe from devastating earthquakes? It has been said HAARP can cause quakes, so my idea is that this is exactly what they do with HAARP, to cause small quakes throughout the US that relieve stress. Have a look at a recent swarm of Yellowstone quakes:

27 Mar 2009 ... Quake Swarm Puts Residents On Alert .... The 'beauty' of the clusters of quakes is that more times than not, the earth is relieving itself of undue stress.

HAARP & Quakes: haarp earthquakes - Google Search

discussion about a quake swarm in Cali:

Calif quake swarm jolts some into action
A swarm of more than 250 earthquakes have hit close to the southern San Andreas Fault since Saturday, ranging in magnitude from 0.8 to 4.8. The swarm is centered near the thinly populated Salton Sea region in the state's southeastern desert, but shaking can be felt in the fast-growing Coachella Valley to the northwest.

Scientists have been keeping close tabs on the swarm because it is rattling near a section of the San Andreas that last snapped in 1690. The San Andreas has the potential to unleash a "Big One" and cause serious damage to the greater Los Angeles region.

The seismic jiggling frayed the nerves of some people who wonder if the swarm is just a warm-up to a major quake. Since scientists cannot predict earthquakes the way meteorologists can forecast tomorrow's weather, the best they can say is that the latest rumblings slightly raise the probability of a San Andreas event, but the risk significantly drops off with time.

Read more: Calif quake swarm jolts some into action

Discussion of an unexplained swarm:

USGS says quake swarm near Yorba Linda is strange - Sciencedude : The Orange County Register
Hough elaborated in an email, saying, “It’s curious in the sense that it’s one of those sequences that doesn’t fit neatly into a well recognized mold. If it’s a swarm then it certainly isn’t a typical one – not that we understand what a swarm is, or why they happen!

“Offhand, I can’t recall another sequence quite like it, although it’s possible they’ve happened before and we’ve just never noticed because they haven’t been close to populated areas.”

I wouldn't begin to know how to prove this. I'm sure historically there have been quake swarms, but that does not rule out scientists figuring out a way to mimic this.. size up an imminent disaster (Yellowstone Super volcano) and try to neutralize it. Fight fire with fire, how about fight quakes with quakes?
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[7redorbs]

hey this is a really interesting take on Haarp sean, is there any way to verify it? There was a good episode on HAARP by Jessie Ventura in his show Conspiracy Theory.

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[Noel Baines]

I have heard it said that hurricane Katrina was enhanced by HAARP or some such, with winds over 500mph. Hmmm. In Queensland, Australia, we have now had 3 months of rain which is way too much. This is the tropics so we do get a lot of rain, but never before late december as a rule. I look at the weather radar and satellite every day and have noticed the cloud patterns are almost identical every day, ie, a north west to south east line of cloud that has a very straight edge on the west side. I watch the sky regularly, having very many photos of chemtrails in coastal central Queensland and 400 km west of the coast. I think the chemtrails and HAARP could be used in tandem to severely alter weather. By putting micro fine metal in the chemical spray it could be used as an antenna near to the ground, right in the cloud band.

[Unregistered]

While there is no concrete evidence of HAARP having been used, scientific findings suggest that it is at present fully operational. What this means is that HAARP could potentially be applied by the US military to selectively modify the climate of an "unfriendly nation" or "rogue state" with a view to destabilizing its national economy. Agricultural systems in both developed and developing countries are already in crisis as a result of New World Order policies including market deregulation, commodity dumping, etc. Amply documented, IMF and World Bank "economic medicine" imposed on the Third World and the countries of the former Soviet block has largely contributed to the destabilization of domestic agriculture. In turn, the provisions of the World Trade Organization (WTO) have supported the interests of a handful of Western agri-biotech conglomerates in their quest to impose genetically modified (GMO) seeds on farmers throughout the World.

It is important to understand the linkage between the economic, strategic and military processes of the New World Order. In the above context, climatic manipulations under the HAARP program (whether accidental or deliberate) would inevitably exacerbate these changes by weakening national economies, destroying infrastructure and potentially triggering the bankruptcy of farmers over vast areas. Surely national governments and the United Nations should address
the possible consequences of HAARP and other "non-lethal weapons" on climate change.

Read the hole page H.A.A.R.P.

[l.f.theria]

Given that most earthquakes are either the result of tectonic stresses relieving themselves or shakes on the flanks of a volcano -- or the incipience of one-- I don't see how we can cause such. My personal opinion (and this is just my opinion, mind you) is that HAARP is pretty much what the mainstream researchers say it is; it's the only explanation I know of which makes sense from both a science and common-sense point of view.

[nestack]

for more information :-)

[Him]

as a military trained radio technician
haarp causing quakes is a mystery to me

HF radio waves will heat up the upper atmosphere
and thats about it

i just dont see it happining

i like doom
but it aint here
move along

[7redorbs]

do not forget sympathetic resonance, it is however interesting this was one of the claims of nikola tesla " i could split the earth in two "

that may be exageration, however resonance with negligible losses can lead to very large pressures to form. I believe he called it the Tesla Coil. He obviously thought he could take it a step further. Which isn't surprising considering the Tesla Tesla Coil patent has an aerial that uses the capacitance of the earth to setup a magneto dielectric field.

Whether it has anything to do with haarp is anyones best guess I suppose..

appreciate the info him

Best,
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[l.f.theria]

I think Nikola Tesla was one of the most brilliant inventors and engineers of the past several hundred years, but he went from being eccentric (for example, he required seventeen linen napkins with each meal -- no, not cotton; and no, not sixteen, but linen and seventeen of 'em) to completely out of it by the time he was in his late sixties.

The fact of the matter was that a lot of his more grandiose inventions, including his World System, simply didn't work; his financial backers realized that they didn't, and stopped throwing good money after bad.

Lots of folks make a big deal about how the FBI hid all his papers after his death to keep his Secret Weapons from falling into the hands of the Bad Guys; but that doesn't fly, either. We were involved in World war II, and the FBI, always paranoid, saw (correctly) in Tesla that he had been a well-known scientist who was from a country influenced by the Nazis, so they grabbed his stuff and sat on it.

Think about it: in the seventy years since Tesla's death, you'd think that, if there really were anything to some of his more outlandish claims, the Government would have developed them like they did nuclear power or jet aircraft or radar or microwaves or computers,... the list goes on and on.

But they didn't. Ghod knows we had the money and the paranoia and the rationale to use any secret weapons in all the idiotic wars we've fought (including the Cold War), but we never did. Even today, we continue to dump billions and billions of dollars into "obsolete" weapons systems that we can't afford. Why would we be "wasting" our money of F-22's and B-2's if there were anything to any of Tesla's inventions that he didn't already perfect (inductance, alternating current, etc.) a hundred years ago?

That's why this religion which has grown up around Nikola Tesla simply doesn't make any sense.

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[l.f.theria]

While there is no concrete evidence of HAARP having been used, scientific findings suggest that it is at present fully operational. What this means is that HAARP could potentially be applied by the US military to selectively modify the climate of an "unfriendly nation" or "rogue state" with a view to destabilizing its national economy.

Not to be snarky here, but...

What "scientific findings" are you talking about?

When you say "fully operational" do you mean fully operational in what the users say it is supposed to do (i.e., heating the ionosphere) or something else? And if it's something else, what in particular are you saying it's supposed to do?

How could heating the ionosphere (which is way higher than wherever in the atmosphere -- like the troposphere or stratosphere -- where weather is created or modified) have anything to do with modifying the climate of anyplace else?

Agricultural systems in both developed and developing countries are already in crisis as a result of New World Order policies including market deregulation, commodity dumping, etc. Amply documented, IMF and World Bank "economic medicine" imposed on the Third World and the countries of the former Soviet block has largely contributed to the destabilization of domestic agriculture. In turn, the provisions of the World Trade Organization (WTO) have supported the interests of a handful of Western agri-biotech conglomerates in their quest to impose genetically modified (GMO) seeds on farmers throughout the World.

If that's the case, then why would we waste our time trying to destabilize other countries' economies when these policies you mention are already doing them quite efficiently? And how does it benefit anyone to screw up our own economy?

It is important to understand the linkage between the economic, strategic and military processes of the New World Order. In the above context, climatic manipulations under the HAARP program (whether accidental or deliberate) would inevitably exacerbate these changes by weakening national economies, destroying infrastructure and potentially triggering the bankruptcy of farmers over vast areas.

Again, why? Who would stand to benefit? Like it or not, we live in a global economy. If country A goes bankrupt, we lose customers for our exports, and either we or another country or group of countries (like the EU in the case of Greece, Ireland, Spain, and Portugal) has to pony up money for them, which causes their currency and economy to take a hit and that, in turn, means that we (in this case, I'm referring to my country, the United States) suffer because they can't trade with us.

I mean, it simply doesn't pass the common sense test.

Surely national governments and the United Nations should address the possible consequences of HAARP and other "non-lethal weapons" on climate change.

I was unfortunate enough to grow up in a place (now an independent country) which was at the time a UN Trusteeship. I know those losers first hand; they couldn't organize a Sunday-school picnic, and i wouldn't trust any government, including my own, to do any kind of a job that would do anything but waste money and further curtail our liberties (cf our TSA blackshirts at the airports).

And I propose the real reason that such is not being investigated that -- at least in the case of HAARP -- there's nothing to investigate.