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    Quote Originally Posted by Rediscover View Post
    7 notes in an octave, balanced by 3 6 9. I really wish I understood music better. ;) Seems like Marko Rodin had a point too.
    its groups of 6 actually (you don't include the first integer!)

    Checkout the hexachord;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexachord

    next octave starts at phi or fibonacci factor times base frequency
    Can you explain a little bit more about what you mean by that? Are you saying to do a fibonacci, of the golden ratio? Anyway, ed leedskalnin writes in his book you need a sound base. I agree.

    waiting on some bright ideas from someone, I'm a bit stumped quite how to take it from here (by the way i've not implemented the addition in my app - yes, i added them long strings up all by hand urghh) - it was worth it though.

    Your right, 10th always is balanced. Perhaps thats because the unit size (harmonic base) just completed +1 (1+0). It's a rare number. It only comes round once, then it's gone. In fact, you'll never see another number that adds up quite like 10. Not anywhere. Every other number has very _VERY_ different properties (see Fibonacci) - it'll never add up like any other number. Which is why the exception is mnemonically simple to accommodate in base 10. It may also be a direct proof for the cosmological reasons for the number of digits on a human being, (Vitruvian universe, and da vinci's cosmografia del minor mondo)
    and why the decimalization, digital computing was a marked revolution in mans understanding of maths.

    Of course, they will never replace the irrational fractions. It's decimal we use to _propagate them_ co-incidence? I think not. "need eachother" seems like a good way to look at human beings, perhaps the same thing applies to maths, and physics, perhaps? ;-)

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    next octave starts at phi or fibonacci factor times base frequency

    Can you explain a little bit more about what you mean by that? Are you saying to do a fibonacci, of the golden ratio? Anyway, ed leedskalnin writes in his book you need a sound base. I agree.
    We are using a factor 2 to propagate from 1 octave to the next, doubling the frequency: say A = 432 Hz, next A = 864 Hz, next A = 1728 Hz, if I understand music correctly. I was thinking of using the fibonacci sequence to determine the next octave starting point, say A=432 Hz, next A=864, next A = 1296, next A = 2160Hz, by then the propagation of the scale represents a fibonacci spiral. Really don't know what it sounds like.

    I really do have a problem musically, something missing in my genes, I completely get blocked on this, I KNOW it must represent the translation between harmonics and sustainability of a wave. Tonal forms make up music, also the visible light spectrum, in fact everything, in my view they must be interchangable or translatable by scaling. Just doesn't seem to work if we scale by decimal proportions so irrational scaling (non linear) might provide an answer.

    I look upon tones in this sense as discrete entities, bounded, a tone in between discrete tones must be a harmonic of another tone or - and now I really get bezirk - part of the formation of a tone. Tones simply do not exist as such, they have to build themselves up until they become a full tone. Please look for some high speed recordings of strings being released, they take time to form balance as a tone, the frequency changes during this. Compare a spinning top when it starts to loose balance.

    It seems that indeed we are not aware of the profound decimal system we are using and it's base. irrational decimal = discrete fractional and irrational fractional = discrete decimal. Seems like something which must be solvable by using the right dictionary.

    waiting on some bright ideas from someone, I'm a bit stumped quite how to take it from here (by the way i've not implemented the addition in my app - yes, i added them long strings up all by hand urghh) - it was worth it though.
    Definitely worth it, thanks man.


    By the way, Leedskalnin also had a 9 ton rotating door, adm. 10 c, 10 octaves ?, adm gematria to 144 = 10th fibonacci sequence. Also please have a look at the crescent tip, you might find it also in the spiral center of my first picture, the spiral disc.
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    Fibonacci in nature

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    thank you for such a wonderful video rediscover! Truly beautiful.. Why every moment of life must be joyful for me now is expressed in the video above...

    [video]nVpqtH-g-ok[/video]

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